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You call yourselves pervy fangirls and fanboys, yet...

...none of you posted about Robert Pattinson kissing another man and doing gay sex scenes for an upcoming movie. It's called Little Ashes, and (making matters substantially odder) he plays a young Salvador Dali, and I bet I'll be able to keep from snickering right up to the moment when he starts wearing the crazy up-swooped mustache. But in that kiss photo linked above, at least, and thus presumably in some of the film, he's clean-shaven.

I just have to chuckle, since a role like that is such a perfect way to discombobulate shallow teen fans. They're used to their heartthrobs doing predictable chick-flicks, action films, and heartwarming family dramas, not moving straight from Twilight to a biopic about an eccentric Spanish painter. For that, RPattz, I give you bonus points.

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I read about this a while back, and RPattz is definitely cooler because of it. I really like him, to be honest - he seems like a genuinely good guy who is more thoughtful than some interviewers might make him seem. The "teen" interviews make him come across as a bit of a stoner, but the more indepth interviews are really quite interesting.

*nod*
I feel bad for heartthrobs sometimes, since the ditzy magazines write so shallowly about them, it makes them sound like idiots. He does seem more interesting and smart than the average actor--and rather awkward and modest about the fame issue, which is only how a sane person ought to be. :)

That sounds delicious...

I still haven't seen Twilight, in fact, I don't think I will because I hate movie versions of books I like 9 times out of ten!

But young men kissing other young men is always good for making the eyes happy.

I thought the movie was pretty decent compared to the book (which I liked pretty well, though the second one annoyed me enough that I've quit reading the series). They have some nice indie-film touches that I approved of. The vampire makeup is pretty pasty, though.

The second was too OH, I CANNOT LIIIIIIIVE WITHOUT EDWARD! WHAT WILL I DOOOOO

But the 3rd was great. I do like the Host better though.

Pattinson swished around Twilght wearing lipstick and pancake makeup. This role should be a piece of cake for him.

I don't care for Pattinson anyway, although in the HP movies he sure was a heck of a lot better actor then Emma Watson. And that's not saying much.

He seemed to have a lot of makeup in HP4, too, with that white face and red lips -- the Full Frodo.

I remember noticing the somewhat absurd blush job. As if the makeup dept wished to convey, "I am a sweet, innocent, rosy-faced lad whose death will therefore be all the more tragic."

He even got too much blush applied to him as Cedric. It's like makeup people can't leave him alone.

AND! This is what I like: It is about Dali and Garcia Lorca!!!
Don't care who plays the roles... its about time for more people to become familiar with the name F. Garcia Lorca.

They'll be educating me on him too. I had heard the name, but not read the poetry. Looked up a couple of poems online, though (in translation, of course)--quite appealing!

Hope it's better than that Leo diCaprio film about Verlaine and Rimbaud...

Hope it's better than that Leo diCaprio film about Verlaine and Rimbaud...

I saw about 20 minutes of Total Eclipse on the gay cable channel Logo and had to switch it off. Even David Thewlis couldn't save it.

Hah, I'd forgotten that was David Thewlis. In fact, I'd forgotten mostly everything about that movie, except that it was a bummer.

Oh... I didn't know...
And it seems really interesting.
I suppose I'll keep my eyes open XD

Bound to be some eye candy if nothing else. :)

I keep forgetting I'm not the only pervy fangirl.

I've been hearing about Little Ashes for months. I think I might have to drag someone equally pervy to go see it with me.

Oops. My bad? LOL

The LOTR fandom assured me years ago that there are millions of pervy fangirls. :) In fact, I daresay more fans are pervy than not-pervy.

Enjoy with impunity!

Well I've read loads of Harry Potter slash-fic, and LOTR slash-fic is a requirement I think. I mean, come on ... Legolas alone was pretty enough to inspire wayyyy too much slash-fic.

But yeah, I think the only person I'll be able to convince to see Little Ashes with me is the coworker who is desperately obsessed with Robert Pattinson. LOL

But after forcing hubs to watch Twilight with me, and his less-than-enthusiastic reaction to vampires with no fangs, I wouldn't even attempt to get him to see this one. I can't even get him to watch Nip/Tuck with me due to Julian McMahon's nekkid butt making frequent appearances.

Yes, not only are some of the LOTR boys quite pretty, but there just *aren't* many female characters around most of the time. The only pairings that make sense are slash, practically. :) Then JK Rowling keeps making all these "wand" connotation remarks, which invite the HP slash too...

But yeah, we can never expect the straight men to get in on this with us. It's just never their thing.

Hey, wait, I'm a straight guy! Although I admit the eye-candy aspect does nothing for me; I guess I'm just attracted to the inherently transgressive nature of slash. Wait, I think I'm quoting myself; better reset the pomposity filter.

Next time I'm tempted to say I've just got a juvenile sense of pervy humor, I'll call it an admiration for slash's "inherently transgressive nature" instead. Sounds much more respectable. :)

Is femslash any more attractive? Willow/Tara do anything for you and such...? (Well, they're canon, so that isn't femslash, but still.)

Depends what you mean by "do anything..." Amusing, not arousing. And the more transgressive, the more amusing.

/Usually.
//Not any kind of shipper, really, *cough* HMS Harmony *cough* really not...

Fred and Willow having a moment of flirtation was definitely of the amusing variety. Joss is good at finding the comedy in transgression, I suppose...

Hmm, I thought you'd said you were for Hermione/Viktor and Harry/Cho?

I don't exactly ship anyone in HP, but I admit HMS Harmony has always made a lot more sense to me than the canon pairings.

Well, yes. I think Harry's and Hermione's firsts were much better for them than the people they eventually ended up with. And I've ranted elsewhere, frequently and at length, about the not-at-all-veiled Anglocentrism and what the author's choices for the characters say about construction of Otherness. Having a protagonist's first be an Other who can then be conveniently discarded after paving the way for the author's preferred, ethnically appropriate choice is probably my least favorite romantic-fiction cliche... whoa, ratchet back, Naill, take a deep breath. Don't even get started on JKR's comments about keeping the cast of the movies "all British..."

Oh, right, shipping. Am I going to post on shipping again? Thank goodness this post is far enough back in the past that no one but you is likely to notice; that should keep the flames down.

By the time Book 7 rolls around, it's pretty clear that Cho and Viktor have been so marginalized that they're off the table, so to speak. (Not quite ready to google "Cho and Viktor on the table...") So I'm willing to accept that those pairings don't make sense for story reasons. The defining moment of Harry's generation is the battle of the Dept. of Mysteries (which is why I had Harry give, or try to give, the St. Crispin's Day speech before they headed in.) The six kids in Harry's posse yield nine het pairings (since it's pretty obvious that's the way JKR is heading, we can -- with a touch of melancholy -- dismiss the slash pairings). And one of those nine pairings is Weasleycest, and we can be very sure JKR isn't headed that way. So of the remaining choices, the most appealing, at least to me, are Neville/Ginny, Ron/Luna, and Harry/Hermione.

I can see the story problem again -- H/H leaves Ron pretty much completely out of things, unless a much bigger role for Luna is written in. Not that I would object to that...

Good points. There's a weirdly old-fashioned British cliquishness/patriotism to the HP books, which is especially weird since she also tries to make a point of denouncing such cliquishness if (and only if) it occurs in the upper classes. Then again, "Malfoy," "LeStrange"...those names look suspiciously FRENCH. Ah ha!

The "all British" casting request rubbed me the wrong way too. Can you *imagine* the cries of imperialism/racism/etc. if some American said something similar? Say, if Stephenie Meyer insisted that the Twilight cast be "all American"? (Which, as a Mormon from a red state, she might have secretly wished, but at least she's been smart enough to embrace British RPattz as her Edward.) Granted, I get the impression Meyer had little to no say in the movie production, unlike Rowling, so she probably had lawyers explain the situation quite thoroughly to her beforehand--and I imagine it involved a remark like, "Do you want to look like that nutjob Anne Rice, hollering her head off about the casting of Tom Cruise as Lestat? Did that do her any favors? Nooo."

Got a bit off track there, but still. Good points. :)

LJ rejected my first attempt to post this, demonstrating the long reach of the Rowlingists:

It seems odd that the UK, given its rather distressing histroy in those areas, should get a pass on imperialism and racism... But I don;t think it does. I think it's just JKR who does, because if anyone dares call her on it too loudly or publicly, her fans will crush that person like a Rita Skeeter Animagus Beetle. But now that it's over and she has no sword to hold over our favorite characters' heads, her powers of fandom control may be waning.

Yeah, I bet there was more outcry in the UK itself about JKR's remark; it possibly just didn't filter to my ears over here. From my visits there, I recall they did as much self-flagellation (if not more) than America does regarding Rather Big Mistakes Of History.

It will be interesting to see if her future writings gain anywhere near the foothold and influence of the HP verse...

I'd never even heard of this movie... Many years ago I went to see My Own Private Idaho in the theater. Difficult as it may be to believe, Keanu was a heartthrob then, not a running joke, and I would have thought River Phoenix was too, but during the first intimate kiss between them one of the group of teen girls in front of me cried "Oh, Keanu, how could you!"

As so often happens, the movie foreshadows their fates -- in the end Keanu chooses to join the rich folk, abandoning River P. to a downward spiral of drugs, homelessness, and prostitution.

Does Daniel Day-Lewis in My Beautiful Laundrette count?

I'm old enough to remember that phase of Keanu too. :) In fact, I used to consider it a compliment to tell my boyfriend (now husband) that he looked sort of like Keanu. (He had longish hair at the time, and the same kind of build.)

And when I saw My Own Private Idaho I was in college, and by then I was already pervy or worldly enough to find the River/Keanu kiss quite sweet and intriguing. Uneven movie on the whole, but yeah, the ending with River Phoenix unconscious in the road is chilling now, given how his life ended--i.e., unconscious on a sidewalk.

Still haven't seen Laundrette...may need to. Is there some requirement that British actors all play a gay part when they're in their early twenties? It seems like they all have. And why isn't this a requirement for Americans, darn it? :)

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